Curse

Sir Pandra Pierva · Apr 07, 2008, 08:23 PM // 20:23

its guru everything becomes pvp after a while.

I think its kinda funny that sins use scythes in gvg now and cause more pain than dervishs in many cases

isamu kurosawa · Apr 07, 2008, 08:54 PM // 20:54

well its been stated before skills like keen chop where added to be used by sins. So crit strikes was designed to be used with other weapon types as well.

llsektorll · Apr 07, 2008, 08:56 PM // 20:56

Okay did the test again for another hour.... with Way of the Master + Way of the Assassin + Critical Eye up... there was not one hit that was not a critical.

Sir Pandra Pierva · Apr 07, 2008, 08:58 PM // 20:58

you watched your screen for a whole hour?

thats either really dedicated or you need to do something else in GW

llsektorll · Apr 07, 2008, 09:05 PM // 21:05

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Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva

you watched your screen for a whole hour?

thats either really dedicated or you need to do something else in GW

its not that hard not to notice a +3+1 energy go up on top of your characters head when you are in pve...

Sir Pandra Pierva · Apr 07, 2008, 09:07 PM // 21:07

ok that kind of testing.

when you said testing i thought you went outside in the nameless isles and started attacking the one guy for an hour straight

llsektorll · Apr 07, 2008, 09:11 PM // 21:11

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Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva

ok that kind of testing.

when you said testing i thought you went outside in the nameless isles and started attacking the one guy for an hour straight

nah... i like on the field testing...

Coloneh · Apr 07, 2008, 09:26 PM // 21:26

wow... people fail. sins are fine, this build isnt even that great. the damage isn't ridiculous and the crit chance isn't 100%.

has anyone even noticed that MS/DB is still better?

llsektorll · Apr 07, 2008, 09:36 PM // 21:36

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

wow... people fail. sins are fine, this build isnt even that great. the damage isn't ridiculous and the crit chance isn't 100%.

has anyone even noticed that MS/DB is still better?

Mobious Strike and Death Blossom is good for fighting bosses... not really for frenzying afflicted in factions....

then there is something about wielding a scythe that makes it so much more leet than holding two butter knives in your hand

EDIT: maxed out asuran scan looks interesting... additional 75% dmg xD... OP

FlamingMetroid · Apr 07, 2008, 09:56 PM // 21:56

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Originally Posted by llsektorll

then there is something about wielding a scythe that makes it so much more leet than holding two butter knives in your hand

Dragon Scythes = wins
now go back to MS/DB ;p

EDIT: just tested-
MS/DB = 81 DPS 181 max 7 sec to death @ 14 crit 14 dagger w/ +15 enchant zealous enchanting
Crit Scythe= 75 DPS 201 max 6 sec to death @ 14 crit 12 scythe w/ +15 enchant sundering fortitude
yay winning

llsektorll · Apr 07, 2008, 10:14 PM // 22:14

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Originally Posted by FlamingMetroid

Dragon Scythes = wins
now go back to M/DB ;p

you mean Dragonic? or Surian?.... both look lame and small imo... I think the Tengu scythe is huge and matches my armor...

the only decent scythe out of tengu is the clockwork scythe....

daggers is boring after a while... especially with all the throw dirt rangers in factions.... assassins remedy ftw

Tyla · Apr 07, 2008, 10:16 PM // 22:16

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Originally Posted by llsektorll

you mean Dragonic? or Surian?.... both look lame and small imo... I think the Tengu scythe is huge and matches my armor...

the only decent scythe out of tengu is the clockwork scythe....

Dragon Scythes. Recently had a name change to something, can't remember what. They are Daggers.

FlamingMetroid · Apr 07, 2008, 10:16 PM // 22:16

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Originally Posted by llsektorll

you mean Dragonic? or Surian?.... both look lame and small imo... I think the Tengu scythe is huge and matches my armor...

the only decent scythe out of tengu is the clockwork scythe....

daggers is boring after a while... especially with all the throw dirt rangers in factions.... assassins remedy ftw

Dragon Kamas
darn you name change

EDIT: dang tyla beat me

so i herd sin's remedy works with daggers and there are these weird things called monks, rits, necros, and paras that can remove conditions for you.

zling · Apr 07, 2008, 10:16 PM // 22:16

the skills Way of the Assassin and Way of the Master clearly indicate that the assassin class was meant to use other weapons besides daggers... skills like Malicious Strike being a melee attack just enforce this conclusion.
so whats the problem with non dagger using assassins?

FlamingMetroid · Apr 07, 2008, 10:17 PM // 22:17

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Originally Posted by zling

the skills Way of the Assassin and Way of the Master clearly indicate that the assassin class was meant to use other weapons besides daggers... skills like Malicious Strike being a melee attack just enforce this conclusion.
so whats the problem with non dagger using assassins?

you can only MS/DB with daggers <3

llsektorll · Apr 07, 2008, 10:31 PM // 22:31

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Originally Posted by FlamingMetroid

Dragon Kamas
darn you name change

EDIT: dang tyla beat me

so i herd sin's remedy works with daggers and there are these weird things called monks, rits, necros, and paras that can remove conditions for you.

orly?

When I see "I'm using Healing Breeze on Eternal Was Shadows"... i rather give up on those monks... i'm better off with hero hench...

I need assassin's remedy to remove weakness caused by Weary Strike before Mystic Sweep hits.

Bobby2 · Apr 08, 2008, 12:03 AM // 00:03

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Originally Posted by llsektorll

I need assassin's remedy to remove weakness caused by Weary Strike before Mystic Sweep hits.

Metroid, this is the sexy part of the build.

That said I never run ScytheSins. In PvP, there's no Critical Agility - so I'd always be dissapointed by what is in my mind only 66% damage output. In PvE, SY! > all A/D's.

Asha Rai · Apr 08, 2008, 09:57 AM // 09:57

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Originally Posted by llsektorll

Okay did the test again for another hour.... with Way of the Master + Way of the Assassin + Critical Eye up... there was not one hit that was not a critical.

If you are testing on low level mobs, you will likely get 100% crit chance. Test it on the lvl 20 npcs in the isle of nameless, and you will find you get a fair number of normal hits.

Shadowmere · Apr 08, 2008, 08:13 PM // 20:13

This is one thing I absolutely love about assassins, they're practically designed to be able to use any and every martial weapon to deadly effect.

None can match 'em when they use their native daggers, but with skills like [wiki]Way of the Master[/wiki], [wiki]Keen Chop[/wiki], [wiki]Keen Arrow[/wiki], [wiki]Disrupting Accuracy[/wiki] & [wiki]Vicious Attack[/wiki] Assassins can now wield any weapon as well as (and in some cases better) than their native class. Truley sins are the weapon masters

Sir Pandra Pierva · Apr 08, 2008, 10:18 PM // 22:18

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Originally Posted by Asha Rai

If you are testing on low level mobs, you will likely get 100% crit chance. Test it on the lvl 20 npcs in the isle of nameless, and you will find you get a fair number of normal hits.

unlike him i did test it out in the isle of the nameless while doing homework

large computer screens ftw.

anyway i have seen the math in and in theory they are right, but in fact i found that either i got really lucky and got all crits for an hour or its just that way.

so as far as i have seen

theory-impossible to 100% crit
in practice-really easy to 100% crit